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Tallaran Kouros
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Posted - 2010.04.06 15:37:00 -
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 Originally by: Kitimortoa
aside from some stupid snide remarks made by some of those guys on the audio, they were doing what they percieved at the time to be the right actions to take.
There is truth in what you say; namely that they did what they believed was right.
Unfortunately that does not mean that it *is* right, no matter how earnest the belief.
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Tallaran Kouros
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Posted - 2010.04.07 11:55:00 -
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Originally by: Bellum Eternus
The Iraquis do the same thing when given half a chance. And the Chinese, and the Russians, and the UK, and and and... It's not restricted to Americans.
Can you provide evidence for that allegation?
I'd like to see where China, Russia or the UK has acted in such a manner.
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Tallaran Kouros
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Posted - 2010.04.07 14:41:00 -
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Originally by: Abraham Azadian
The jewish population in Russia hit an all time high in 1941 at 5.4 million ... stalin was so evil he managed to kill more jews than there were around at the time.
I really, really want to make a Chuck Norris joke here, but that would be really inappropriate :(
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Tallaran Kouros
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Posted - 2010.04.07 15:18:00 -
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Originally by: Kitimortoa
Arrests, 1937-1938 - about 7 million
Executed - about 1 million
Died in camps - about 2 million
In prison, late 1938 - about 1 million
In camps, late 1938 - about 8 million
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But how many were Jews and purged simply for being Jewish, rather than being political or of suspect loyalty?
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Tallaran Kouros
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Posted - 2010.04.08 12:36:00 -
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Originally by: Astenion
Also, if you've never been to a warzone, just STFU. You don't know what you'd do in that situation unless you were there, and sitting on your ass a million miles away pointing fingers and calling people baby killers doesn't help your case.
Uhm, no.
You don't need to be in or have experienced something to have an opinion on it.
For example, I've never injected ****** but I am on the reasonable belief that it's going to be bad for me and not something that people should really do. Likewise, I don't need to have several man trying to push their ****s up my ass to know that I'm not going to like it...
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Tallaran Kouros
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Posted - 2010.04.11 15:37:00 -
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Originally by: Machanara
Oh....and where is the outrage about the genocide from wars down in Africa and in the post- soviet republics? I don't hear any of you whiny *****es crying about the 100's of thousands murdered in THOSE WARS.... where are you screaming about all those dead people...all those MURDERED people?
I can talk about plenty of outrages, be it Rwanda or Kosovo but none of them are topical right now - this is.
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......yea...thats what I thought Since America isn't involved with those...they don't count. Its a non-starter...
They count, but this isn't anything to do with the US per se - it's about pilots making incorrect calls and then the subsequent coverup.
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Tallaran Kouros
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Posted - 2010.04.13 10:12:00 -
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Originally by: Irida Mershkov
to this altered. A good example of this are the drone attacks in Pakistan which have killed a fraction of insurgents compared to the civilian casualties.
Haven't they taking out a good number of high-level terrorist commanders though?
Don't forget that we only ever hear of operations that go wrong, not ones that get the target and fly back out without any civilian casualties.
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Tallaran Kouros
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Posted - 2010.04.13 14:44:00 -
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Originally by: Irida Mershkov
Unfortunately, this is at a rate of 1:19* to last released numbers, this could be lower, it could also be higher, and with the US' record of covering up things like this I'm partial to believe the figure is for now accurate
I'd be interested in seeing the figures to back this up.
I appreciate that they do release information on the successful operations in order to justify the policy, but I'm sure that many more mundane ones go unreported.
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Note on how terrorist attacks against the US and the UK have rise since the invasions of Iraq & Afghanistan.
I suspect that your definition of terrorist attacks if probably different to that from people in the UK.
I'm willing to wager money that there have been far more attacks against the UK by dissident republicans opposed to the NI peace process in the last 6 months than there have been by Islamic fundamentalists in the last 10 years - there was a car bomb outside the MI5 headquarters in Holywood the other night for example. This is still far far less than there were during the 80s and 90s though, when politicians seriously started negotiating an end to violence.
Ultimately drone strikes might do much to take out the existing leadership, but there is only going to be a real end to the conflict when people sit down and talk about a negotiated ceasefire and a political settlement as this conflict is unwinnable in a conventional sense - there is no capital city to capture and no formal army to defeat.
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